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john: alright, this is john kohler with okraw.comand this episode is actually interview my friend, cecilia star, who i actually met ata woodstock fruit festival, and she got into a health journey about six years ago and startedeating a plant-based, fruit and vegetable-centric, raw food diet about three years ago. and thereason why i wanna have her on is because she healed even, you know, at a much moremature age several different diseases that were ailing her, you know, by literally justchanging her diet. and also to show you guys that it’s never too late to start, if you’rehaving problems, because you literally – the old adage holds true, you are what you eat,and absorb! because if your digestives is not working, you’re not gonna absorb it.so let’s hear from cecilia, a little bit

about her journey. so, cecilia, why did youchange your diet even after being, you know, what, over 65 at that point? cecilia: yeah, i was way over 65 when i startedmy journey. cause i’m 73 now, and so i started it ‘cause i was working, i had so much arthritisin my hands, in my feet, in the back of my neck, it would just burn. and in my field,i needed to have my hands, cause i’m a hairdresser, so i need to feel good and stand on my feetall day long, and so that’s why i decided to look into being a vegetarian, and thena vegan, and after a vegan to a raw vegan. and that’s when i went online to look upjames colburn’s arthritis shot years ago on larry king live, i heard him and i rememberedthat. and so i went online, looked it up,

and it was a vegetarian diet. and so i decidedto give it a try. and that really, really, really helped. when i did that, it didn’ttake long. and my arthritis in my hands and my thumbs and the joints just hurt so bad,and in my feet, that i – and i had cramps and i had the pains in my big toe, and those– i had varicose veins, a lot of things going on. plus i was dealing with the lastfifty years’ worth of yeast overgrowth from too many antibiotics. and with this…andthat is cleared up now, since i switched my diet. which is great. i’m happy about that. john: wow. so yeah, just by simply changingyour diet, you know, your body will allow itself to heal. so what is your, cecilia,how did going from the vegetarian to the vegan

to the raw vegan, did you see incrementalimprovements all during that time, or why did you finally end up going raw vegan? cecilia: well, that’s a good question. iswitched to being a vegetarian and then to a vegan, and then i used to do some cookedfood, and so then i went on a vacation, and i was online, and i was looking for…andi went down to costa rica to the farm of life down there, not knowing that they were a rawvegan type of group place there, and it was wonderful. i had the time of my life. thatwas the best trip i’ve ever taken. it was emotional, it was spiritual, it was healing,it was fun, it was active, ‘cause i like to be active, we went ziplining, we went hiking,we jumped off cliffs, off of waterfalls, went

swimming, and it was just a wonderful, wonderfultime. and that’s when – and most of those people from there except for me was all fromthe woodstock fruit festival in new york. so i came home and i decided i was gonna lookup, the next year, i went to the woodstock fruit festival. and that’s where my journeyjust keeps evolving and going as time goes on, and as i’m growing and getting intoit. so, that’s my story. john: wow. yeah, that’s totally amazing,i mean, in hawaii woodstock, you know cecelia would go on hikes with us and she would keepup with the kids half her age, just about, man. cecilia: and skydiving, also.

john: yeah, she sky — she’s crazy, man!but yeah, these foods, they keep you young, that’s how i’ve – i’ve been doingthis for 20 years, and most people think i’m about ten years younger than i actually am.you know, i’m young at heart, i don’t know if it’s because of my diet or becausei’m just that way, and cecilia’s the same way, she plays tennis three times a week,still has a full-time job, she’s working and does her gardening and all kinds of otherstuff, so if you wanna see her garden, be sure to check my other youtube channel, growingyourdreams.com,actually, there’s a really good piece and episode on cecilia with her garden, becausegrowing her own food is very important. let’s talk about that, how important it is growingyour own food and what differences have you

stopped or started growing and incorporatingsome of that food you grew into your diet. cecilia: well, to me it’s very importantto get the vegetables as fast as you can, eating them, so you get all the nutrients.cause once it’s been picked, you don’t know how long it’s been in the grocery stores,and then it loses nutrients the longer it’s been cut. so when you can grow your own andyou can go right outside and i just love it! i can go every morning right out to my owngarden, ten feet away or less, and come in and pick it and wash it and put it in my smoothieor juice it and i just feel the energy, and that’s what i look at the food when i buyit – is that leaf nice and strong or is it weak and limp? how much energy does thathave? cause if it’s a strong leaf and it’s

not weak and limp, it’s got a lot of energyin it. well, that energy goes into my body, then, and that gives me energy to sustainmy life. so to me it is really 100% important to me that i have as fresh as possible. andorganic, ‘cause i’m growing organic everything, thanks to john kohler and people like him,that i can help me with the knowledge on how to do that, ‘cause i knew nothing, i neverthought sixty years ago or even twenty years that i’d be on this life journey. and ijust so enjoy it so much. john: that’s awesome, yeah, i mean one ofthe things that’s really important to me also that i sense with the food is the lifeforce energy in the food, whether you wanna call it prana, chi, or biophoton, this issomething that science hasn’t really researched

yet. but, you know, in my opinion, life begetslife, and we wanna eat foods as fresh as possible, because not only do they have the life forceenergy, but they have more phytonutrients and phytochemicals as well, which i have identifiedas some of the most important nutrients in the food. now, i know you play tennis andyou do skydiving and you— cecilia: skydiving, hiking and— john: yeah, hiking and— cecilia: this morning in the rain! three miles! john: you jump off cliffs, aren’t you scaredabout breaking some bones? and didn’t you have, like, osteoporosis, and how has theraw diet, and the fruit and vegetable diet

affected that? cecilia: well, also i like doing herbs, ireally believe in the power of herbs, so i make my own little herb concoctions here anddo that with the food, so – that’s what i think that’s important to me, so. john: and how ‘bout – you had osteoporosis,or— cecilia: i did, i had osteoporosis, whichi reversed and i’ve got proof of that. that because they do the bone tests, and the bonescans with that all the time, i’ve had for years, and the other reason why it’s reallyimportant to me to eat healthy is because i come from a large family and my father diedof colon cancer, a brother died of colon cancer,

a sister died of colon cancer, and i’vegot a lot of cancer in my family, and i know one to believe i don’t wanna wait till iget it before i start doing something and changing my diet. i’m into preventing, tomake prevention is, you know, i don’t wanna go to the doctor, doctors don’t make youwell, your body has the power to heal itself. and i’m not short of drugs, but i may beshort of greens and fruits. and so as much as that stuff that i can get into me, thebetter. and juicing – i can juice so much more greens than i could possibly eat if itried just eating it or having a sandwich with a little piece of lettuce or one sliceof tomato on it, when i could eat a whole box of tomatoes or a whole deal of celery,a whole stalk of celery, i could juice all

that and drink it at one time. that’s whati feel the body needs and it’s gonna regenerate, ‘cause the body has the power to regenerateitself if you give it the right foods and the right exercise and a spiritual as well– that’s why i like to pray, i don’t…i like to go out to the ocean, to the beach,walk on the beach, sit on the sand, or go hiking in the woods, be with nature. to me,that’s what god made and the sun, that’s – the sun has the power to heal. and that’swhy it’s so important to be in the sun, and everybody today wants to hide away, everyone’sin the house all the time, and that’s why i try to go outside and do as many fun thingsas i can. john: wow, yeah, i mean she had so many importantparts and points to make in just that little

section, but one of the most important tome is because i come from a situation where i almost lost my life and the doctors didn’thave a heal or couldn’t cure me, you know, when i was in my health crisis, you know,i came out and was a lot more serious about my health and that’s why i focus on a certainspecific kind of raw food diet. i mean, a raw food diet, much like a vegan diet, couldbe healthy or unhealthy, there’s plenty of junk food vegans that could have oreo cookiesand coke, i mean, those are vegan foods, but they’re not healthy foods in my opinion,so you need to be more than just vegan or more than just raw, you need to eat a healthydiet. so a healthy diet to me is— cecilia: fresh.

john: yeah, fresh! foods that you could growyourself, fresh fruits and fresh vegetables, that should be the center of your diet andyou should focus on these foods the most. trying to eat the minimal amount of calorieswhile still maintaining and meeting your caloric needs, but by eating tons of different phytonutrientsand phytochemicals, these are the disease protective properties of a plant that people– and some people, even on a raw food diet, are just not getting because they’re eatinghigh-calorie raw foods like too many nuts and seeds, and too many bananas or high-caloriefruit, dates, or fried fruits and whatnot. cecilia: processed, boxed vegan foods-- john: yeah, boxed, you know, kale chips andall these things. we need to really eat vegetables,

lots of vegetables, leafy greens, and thefruits. so let’s talk about this, cecilia, what’s your daily diet like, on a daily– i mean, you’re a small lady, so you probably don’t eat a ton of food, like asmuch as i do, but you know, what do you have to let people know, like if they’re older,you know, in their senior years, what they might wanna start with or what they mightwanna do if they wanna do something like you’re doing? cecilia: probably the best way to – i tellmy friends who listen to me and what i do is start with smoothies. smoothies are reallyeasy to make, everybody has a blender at home, that’s all you need is a blender to do thatwith, and you can add apples to it, cucumbers,

and i was asked this morning, cause the girlsi was hiking with asked me, “well, what do you do for a treat for yourself?” andi said, well, i make a really good smoothie out of bananas – a frozen banana, and somealmond milk, and i put a little ginger in there, and little turmeric root, both of thoseare fresh roots that i use, and you could put a little vanilla in there and blend thatup and it’s like heaven! ice cream! especially with the frozen banana in there and a littlebit of almond milk, and you could even put some cinnamon in it, there’s all differentkinds of things you can do, but mostly, every single morning, i make either i juice my greensor i make a smoothie with my greens, and i use cucumber, sometimes i put a carrot init, and i always use celery and cucumber – and

a green apple in there, and then i put – itry to every day, use a different green, so i can rotate my greens, i don’t eat the same greenevery day, one day i’ll have two bunches of swiss chard in there, what you buy in thegrocery store that they’re all twisted up in the twister, i’ll put two of those packagesin there that day with the whole cucumber, about a half a stalk of celery and green apple,and i take it to work with me or take it to the tennis courts, and oh my god, you shouldsee what the girls say at the tennis club when i come with my green drinks there, andi’m drinking that on the court, and they’re all, “what are you drinking?” and it’sreally funny. and i enjoy it, so. and i know what its benefit it’s doing me, so that’swhy it doesn’t bother me what other people

say about it, because i can feel the difference.and that’s what my morning is, and then in the evening, i’ll either make anothersmoothie or i’ll make a salad, something to that effect. john: awesome, yeah, so i mean it is reallysimple and easy to eat healthy. right? just smoothies or juices, salads, just increasethe volume of the fresh fruits and vegetables you eat. so now that you guys learn what ceciliaeats, i’m gonna ask her just the final question today, so do you have any hints or tips forpeople out there that are maybe not yet eating copious amounts of fruits and vegetables thatyou’d like to give them that you learned over your journey into health and gettingrid of your arthritis and osteoporosis and

controlling your yeast infections and whatnot? cecilia: start out slow. when i first started,i kept going back to cooked foods, or i would go back to a salmon or a fish or whatever,but then i just slowly weaned myself up. it’s really hard to stop and do it at the pointwhere i am today, i could never have done this six or seven years ago, all at once.so the point is start slow, but steady. and when you make a mistake and you eat a sandwichor bread or you go out one time with your friends, just get right back into it. getback into it, and it gets easier as it goes. and then you learn more, and you talk to otherpeople, like my friend john here who has taught me so much, and i’m watching how he’scooking his – or how he’s fixing his foods

and stuff, and preparing it. so that’s howi learned, from other people, how they do them. but best tip is to go slow and do itin degrees, different degrees. just get a little better and a little better and a littlebetter each time, and six years later, now, it just comes easy and natural to me, andi have no desire to ever go back to eating any kind of animal, they say, “don’t youeat eggs?” and i said no; “dairy?” – to me, dairy is the worst thing you can eat.cause i was so full of mucus in the head, i had tetanus in the ears, my hearing hasgotten better, my eyesight’s gotten better, but the ears, the hearing has gotten a wholelot better. i was gonna go deaf, like most of my clients now, they’re all on hearingaids, men and women. dairy products really

fill our heads with a lot of mucus, and that’swhat caused a lot of headaches, hearing loss, sinus infections. so it’s really importantto try to wean yourself off of the dairy products, and that includes yogurt as well, ice cream,everybody says, “well, yogurt’s supposed to be so good for you,” but it still comesfrom an animal. all the stuff, we forget where the food is coming from, the butter and theyogurt and the ice cream and the cheese, nobody ever thinks where cheese comes from. and so,you just gotta go slow, wean yourself off of it, and you’ll eventually get there. john: yeah. wow, that’s one of the thingsi like to say, by the inch, it’s a cinch, by the yard, it’s hard. start off slow andsteady, you know, just start by changing your

breakfast. and yeah, keep your same lunchand dinner, but at your lunch and dinner, have more fruits and vegetables, so have anextra piece of fruit or two or three at lunch, and have an extra salad or side salad at dinner,and slowly but surely, you know, make the fruit meals a bigger part of your lunch, andmake, whatever, your sandwich smaller. and same with your dinner, make your salads biggerand make your chicken smaller and smaller. and of course, always the breakfast, the besttime to have the raw foods, in my opinion, you know, fresh juices, green juices likei had this morning or fresh fruits or blended smoothies. definitely the best, so yes. i’mglad to have met and know cecilia, she’s doing an amazing job, hopefully she’s motivatedsome of you guys and she’s having her own

successes with her health, and are you beatingyour other peers at tennis and stuff, you can kick their ass ‘cause you’re on ahealthier diet and you have more energy, more vivacious, and quicker reflexes! cecilia: yeah. these kids i play tennis with,believe it or not, are half my age. most of them are either half my age or could be mygrandkids, but i’m playing tennis with and beating them. so my kids get a big kick outof that, they tell everybody that, and they’ve seen me play tennis and they know i play withpeople that are half my age, ‘cause i’m one of the oldest ones on my tennis club thati belong to, and i’m on the team with. and people, they can’t believe, when they’retalking about their kids and then i talk about

mine and they can’t believe i’ve got kidsas old as i have. so. but i do. i love them. john: yeah, you wanna kick ass at tennis,kick ass at life, kick ass at mma or whatever, go plant-based, vegan, fruit and vegetable-centric,man. you’re gonna kick ass just like my friend cecilia here. so hopefully this hasmotivated you just a little bit to include more fresh fruits and vegetables in your diet,if it did, hey, please give me a thumbs up to let me know, i’ll be back to visit cecilianext time i’m in the area, and interview her some more, and share some more words ofwisdom with you guys. also, be sure to check my pass episodes, i have four episodes now,that share with you guys all the different ways to actually incorporate and do raw foods,fruit and vegetable diet, the best way including

ways to save money, all the things to lookout for, the pitfalls and caveats, and be sure to click that subscribe button rightdown below, i have videos coming out about every five to seven days on this channel,you know, with new information that’ll only enhance and encourage you guys to eat morefresh fruits and vegetables, ‘cause that’s what i’m all about. hope you guys enjoyedthis episode, once again, my name is john kohler with okraw.com, we’ll see you nexttime and until then remember: keep eating your fresh fruits and vegetables, they’realways the best.